Torture

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Conservatives Falsely Claim CIA Docs Prove Interrogation Techniques Worked: Link

Commentary: Cheney wrong on interrogations:  Link

The question Americans have to ask themselves is why they hold the former president and vice-president to lower moral and ethical standards than the United States once held the Gestapo. That's all. And that's everything, isn't it?
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Thanks Vrede for these links:
Accountability for torture
List of documents released by FOIA


Excellent links posted debunking common torture claims:   By rstrong:

rstrong      Posted 08-27-2009 07:26 PM

Even Dick Cheney is <a href="http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/25/did-cheney-blink/?apage=5" target="_blank">backing away[/url] from the claim that this information was was extracted through torture.

Small wonder:
<a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/56344/cia-documents-provide-little-cover-for-cheney-claims" target="_blank">CIA Documents Provide Little Cover for Cheney Claims[/url]
"Strikingly, they provide little evidence for Cheney’s claims that the “enhanced interrogation” program run by the CIA provided valuable information. In fact, throughout both documents, many passages — though several are incomplete and circumstantial, actually suggest the opposite of Cheney’s contention: that non-abusive techniques actually helped elicit some of the most important information the documents cite in defending the value of the CIA’s interrogations."

<a href="http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/26/report-reveals-cheney-misled/" target="_blank">And...[/url]
"We learn from the July 2004 document that not only did the man known as “KSM” largely provide intelligence about “historical plots” pulled off from al-Qaeda, a fair amount of the knowledge he imparted to his interrogators came from his “rolodex” — that is, what intelligence experts call “pocket litter,” or the telling documentation found on someone’s person when captured."

And one more thing: You haven't answered a simple question: Does all this justify the torturing of innnocent people, just to find out if the allegations against them are true or false?

There's a growing number of these cases.  Not everyone - or even very many - were KSM.

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